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u/walkingtalkingdread Jan 28 '23
also, he’s better than Donald in Kingdom Hearts and i will die on this hill.
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u/Jorymo Jan 28 '23
Donald is one of the most powerful mages in Final Fantasy, but Goofy was also able to block a hit from and disarm Terranort, who had just OHKO'd actual keyblade wielders
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u/Babyshaker88 Jan 28 '23
This is an incredible sentence for someone who’s never played Kingdom Hearts before
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u/LoganRoyKent Jan 28 '23 edited Jan 28 '23
I’m even less than a casual on this, and I heard “aqua got norded.” I don’t know if that’s right, but here’s my best guess: some water-based character got replaced by that girl from frozen.
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Funny video, though. I like that guy.
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u/Xero0911 Jan 28 '23
Didn't Terranova jump attack the keyblade wielder? Goofy had time to react by then. Not to write off goofy, but I don't think ven had a fair shot when he thought it was terra and got surprised attack
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u/Jorymo Jan 28 '23
He did also take out Axel
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u/Xero0911 Jan 28 '23
To be fair? Who didn't beat the shit out of axel in kh3? Dude just got shit on.
So that isn't exactly saying a whole lot
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u/KingHarambeRIP Jan 28 '23
Ven just got out of a ~10 year coma and was jumped. Nobody expected Terranort would attack Ven like that with such speed and vengeance. They were all, pardon the pun, sleeping on him.
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u/ZPanic0 Jan 28 '23
I stopped at kh2. This whole reply chain is wild.
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u/KingHarambeRIP Jan 28 '23
I only played most of the games but I can assure you what objectively seems like an acid trip here is 100% canon.
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u/Hungry_AL Jan 28 '23
I don't know how anyone would follow the games past 2 lmao
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u/Bruskthetusk Jan 28 '23
Even at the end of 2 I had pretty much lost any idea of wtf was going on with the story, but then I didn't play or watch all the stuff that goes in between the main games so maybe that was my fault??
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u/Kingshabaz Jan 28 '23
Even with Donald's Zetaflare, I say Goofy is better. He may not scale on a power level, but he doesn't miss an item heal when I need him (and yes, I know and use the Customize settings I ain't no noob).
Also, when Goofy went down in KH2 Mickey about went on a mass-murder spree. Donald goes down in KH3? Mickey gives up and isn't set on sacrificing himself for vengeance. That speaks to me.
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u/SicknessVoid Jan 28 '23
Mickey does what in Kingdom Hearts???
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u/Kingshabaz Jan 28 '23 edited Jan 28 '23
He always wore a black cloak (with 1 exception) up until Goofy goes down for the count. Mickey gets fuckin' pissed, throws off the cloak, and leads the good guys into a battle against 1,000 heartless. KH2 is the best in that series, period.
Edit: here is the link. Without context, the conversations make no sense but you get the gist.
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u/spencerforhire81 Jan 28 '23
A duck can be a great friend, but a good dog is about the best companion you can have. There’s a reason Mickey went all John Wick, what happens when you kill a good man’s dog?
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u/maxdragonxiii Jan 28 '23
well he does die a lot less than Donald do and don't fuck up healing so... yeah fair.
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u/TheSirIzzy Jan 28 '23
Goofy ain't a dog he the GOAT
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u/internet_humor Jan 28 '23
"Oh Garsh"
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u/BabuKelsey Jan 28 '23
he hyok
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u/thechickenmoo Jan 28 '23
I don't think I've ever seen that typed out. I love that I knew what it was immediately, but I think I would probably see it more as a "hyuk". Well done.
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u/missanthropocenex Jan 28 '23
Strongly recommend the “Documentary” Atlanta did on their final season for this. It’s bizarre but also thought provoking and deeply moving.
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u/AttyFireWood Jan 28 '23
Remember the old cartoon where Goofy opens the door and the milkman gives him a kiss without looking ... Do we even know if this is Goofy's biological son?
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u/TaytoChip Jan 28 '23
Well, he's a cow... but goddammit you're right! Goof 4 Prez 2024!!!
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u/HiFiveGhost Jan 28 '23
Goofy is a dog, not a cow.
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u/TaytoChip Jan 28 '23
Huh, internet agrees he's a dog. A few Google searches later confirms. Good deal, pal.
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u/chocolate_spaghetti Jan 28 '23
The guy that’s been voicing him for 40 years claims he is an unspecified canine but not a dog.
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u/TheVeryFriendlyGiant Jan 28 '23
And imo he was funnier too
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u/testdex Jan 28 '23 edited Jan 28 '23
Mickey Mouse stopped being a character ages ago. He's just an animate logo, and has been for at least 50 years. Mickey has no characteristics or personality traits beyond "nice." All of the characters around him (except for Minnie) have something to grab onto and potentially even like, but not Mickey.
Mario has the same problem. He's blandly positive and always does what's "right" but he's only permitted to be in situations where what is "right" is completely, stupidly and unrealistically clear. He can't make any sort of judgement call, because to do so, he'd have to have some content to his character.
I hate empty characters like these - and I think most people do by the time they reach adulthood.
Shout out to Sesame Street for having every character (up until Elmo) have quirks, fears, weaknesses, etc. Hiding struggle and self-doubt from children teaches them 1) that they're different for experiencing it, and 2) that when they do experience it, they have to hide it from everyone.
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u/Randinator9 Jan 28 '23
Bro Elmo has character! He has beef with Rocky!
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u/Usual-Plankton5948 Jan 29 '23
Whenever I stumble across Elmo vs Rocko clips, I can't help but watch them all.
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u/pohlarbearpants Jan 28 '23
I actually think Elmo has a decently fleshed out personality. For one thing, he's inquisitive, and for another, he's short tempered.
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u/testdex Jan 28 '23 edited Jan 29 '23
Elmo is fleshed out compared to Mickey, but not compared to any of the Sesame Street characters that predated him.
He was inserted as sort of a protagonist for young viewers to identify with, but that created a problem where he can't have too much to him, or kids wouldn't be able to see themselves in him anymore.
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u/Super_Tikiguy Jan 28 '23
The new Mickey Mouse short cartoons on Disney+ are by far the most entertaining thing the characters have ever been in. IMO they are actually quite good and something that the whole family can enjoy together.
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u/testdex Jan 28 '23
Interesting. The shorts are probably not my jam, but I wonder how much risk they're willing to take in giving him an actual personality.
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u/SamaelTheAngel Jan 28 '23
You didnt read comics Then. In Comics Mickey have pretty characteristic personality. He is "badass detective" archetype.
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u/Random_Stealth_Ward Jan 28 '23
Elmo's personality is basically just "kid on a TV show" but in a muppet coating
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u/b1ack1ight Jan 28 '23
I used to find movies like this painful to watch subconsciously as a kid because my mom and dad weren’t as loving and supportive. Now I get to break that generational curse and be a kick ass parent for my son. Thanks Goofy for helping show the way haha!
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u/moonlightraindrops Jan 28 '23
You’re awesome!
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u/b1ack1ight Jan 28 '23
Nah, just a dude who is trying to be better. I appreciate the sentiment though, having a son changed my perspective on things.
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u/Gingersoul3k Jan 28 '23
Honestly, "trying to be better" is very truly awesome, so yes, you are awesome!
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u/b1ack1ight Jan 28 '23
Thank you, it is an awesome choice, wish more people could find it. I enjoy the Robert Frost poem "The Road Not Taken." I am just on the road less traveled. That has made all the difference for me.
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u/spencerforhire81 Jan 28 '23
From one father to another, it took me a while to realize that trying to be better is awesome in and of itself, and the longer you keep it up the better you become. It’s okay to take a compliment about being “better” as long as you remember to stay on your journey to “best”. You sound like you have an awesome mindset for it.
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u/b1ack1ight Jan 28 '23
Thanks I appreciate that. It is awesome; mentally, physically, emotionally. Compound interest is a hell of a thing. I used to struggle with ego a lot so humility is big for me now.
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u/erstfuer41 Jan 28 '23
Oh fuck is that what this was? I loved Aladdin and Lion King but most other kid movies I disliked.
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u/b1ack1ight Jan 28 '23
Hahaha, it was for me man. Feel good movies were always painful, as I grew older and had my own family I began to realize why. We can be the change tho man, each day is a fresh chance to work on being better than who you were yesterday!
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u/ovalpotency Jan 28 '23
my dad was a single parent narcissist who was obsessed with feeling emotions vicariously and creating sitcom moments in real life. everything was a fantasy, including his parenting and love. imagine how I felt when he got this movie to watch with me. holy shit.
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u/Vengance4126 Jan 28 '23
Goofy always was my favorite of the trio and the movie just reinforced that
Let my boi Max return btw
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u/junky_tech Jan 28 '23
If u haven't seen The Atlanta - The Goof Who Sat by the Door episode , ur missing out.
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u/Grand-Pen7946 Jan 28 '23
What's hilarious is that it's just one long extended joke that explains a couple other small details from the show. Like why taking his daughter to the lake was so important the previous episode, and the Goofy hats in Amsterdam. It's such a good "commit to the bit", possibly my favorite episode after Teddy Perkins.
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u/rorocirca1989 Jan 28 '23
Oh shit. Thats why they had the lake camping episode? Because Ern had watched the Goofy movie?!
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u/pengouin85 Jan 28 '23
Glover had, yeah. He's a certified geek. Always has been and when you marry his wit with that, you get comedy, tragedy, horror, insightful gold from Atlanta
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u/NawThatsAight Jan 28 '23
The mouse also kept a dog as a pet, clearly in an attempt to threaten Goofy and keep him and his son in line.
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u/TrapaholicDixtapes Jan 28 '23
I mean, them having dogs as pets while there are anthropomorphic dogs walking around isn't super weird.
Goofy is to humans as Pluto is to chimpanzees.
(Having a chimp as a pet is super weird but Mickey having a pet dog wouldn't really be the strangest thing in the world of Mickey Mouse and Friends.)
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u/AttyFireWood Jan 28 '23
Minnie has a pet cat, and then there's Pete who's also a cat.
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u/CobaltEchos Jan 28 '23
Wait, wtf, Pete is a cat?!
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u/Maeberry2007 Jan 28 '23
But is not Pete the Cat (or as my daughter called him at age 4 "pizza cat")
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u/AttyFireWood Jan 28 '23
Thematically if the main character is a mouse, having the villain be a cat makes a lot of sense.
Mickey Mouse Club House is crack for toddlers
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u/turdferguson3891 Jan 28 '23
It was always clear that the humanoid animal characters were supposed to be different than the ones that are just animals. Also Pluto predates Goofy by a couple years so initially there were no anthropomorphic dog character at the time.
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u/mctoasterson Jan 28 '23
I always thought it was odd that Pluto was a pet dog, completely submissive to and reliant on Mickey, and Goofy is also a dog, but an emancipated dog, and nobody is bothered by this dynamic. Also WTF is Pete? Also a dog?
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u/Tyrranos_Jax Jan 28 '23
I might be wrong, but isn’t Goofy a dingo?
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u/NawThatsAight Jan 28 '23
I looked it up and it said that while Pluto is a “dog” Goofy is an “anthropomorphic dog.” Doesn’t say he’s a dingo, but he is called Dingo in France!
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u/sentient_ballsack Jan 28 '23
In some countries he's referred to as a dingo (e.g. in the Netherlands) in official sources, but apparently that's not his 'original' international status as devised by Walt Disney. Surprised me as well when I learned about that.
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u/AnUglyDumpling Jan 28 '23
And he'll fucken do it again.
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u/Pyrenees_ Jan 28 '23
Do you want to go to jail ?
No !
Do you want to go to a psychiatric ward ?
No !
Then say that - No ! - you're not guilty. You didn't do it
But I did !
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u/Blue-cheese-dressing Jan 28 '23
“The Blackest movie ever made.”
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u/Quick_Shoulder2165 Jan 28 '23
I was wondering if anyone else saw Goofy and thought to look in the comments for this reference 🤭
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u/TheRealGeigers Jan 28 '23
I just watched Atlanta for the first time last week, great show!
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u/LeSypher Jan 28 '23
That documentary blew my mind away
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u/NickKappy Jan 28 '23
It was so well done I wasn’t certain if it was a true story lol I knew it was a joke, but as it went on, it was so well written and done that I kept thinking, maybe this is true…
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u/LeSypher Jan 28 '23
Holy shit I thought it was 100% real until I read this just now
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u/LaughNow_CryL8r Jan 29 '23
Even when they showed goofys gloves and shoes at the scene of his death? 😂
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u/LeSypher Jan 30 '23
Yeah lol, I was going along with the director guy losing his mind and becoming obsessed with goofy so I didn't think props would be crazy
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u/AMMQP4 Jan 28 '23
I miss Atlanta! I love that I can remember this.
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u/Brownie_McBrown_Face Jan 28 '23
Amazing episode and I miss it too, but it literally came out 3 months ago lol.
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u/thecountvon Jan 28 '23
I just binged it. Can’t stop thinking of the goofy hats in Amsterdam. They kept claiming their history wasn’t racism, but those goofy hats everywhere makes it crystal.
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u/supercharged0709 Jan 28 '23
That just means there’s a girl who had sex with Goofy.
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u/skarbles Jan 28 '23
Wait, Goofy is a dog? What the fuck is Pluto then?
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u/DNihilus Jan 28 '23
Pluto is what chimps to us
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u/Sega-Playstation-64 Jan 28 '23
There was some holiday special where Donald Duck and family were eating Christmas dinner and there was a cooked turkey on the table, couldn't help but feel like the equivalent of humans enjoying a juicy, crispy Christmas gorilla.
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u/Atomic_Noodles Jan 28 '23
2014 Ducktales had a moment where one of the Moon Aliens hung out with the Duck kids and they were feeding a more realistic duck in the park. The Alien had the same questions to how and why there were lesser duck species.
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u/valraven38 Jan 28 '23
Birds eat other birds all the time though, ducks will eat birds smaller than them if they can get them. Wild animals aren't exactly picky.
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u/BeautifulBeard Jan 28 '23
It's not the size of the dog in the fight, but the size of the fight in the dog.
Goofy is a dawwwwwg.
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u/Mattock1987 Jan 28 '23
I don’t want to picture the birth of the son. Or the conception.
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u/OphrysAlba Jan 28 '23
Doggy... Style...
Oh to hell with it, someone had to spurt this unfortunate joke.
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u/Ok-Disk-2191 Jan 28 '23
This scene https://youtu.be/4-HsNiq1V2M from the goofy movie, would always make me cry.
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u/eastbayhuck Jan 28 '23
Goofy is now broke af with all that student debt well into his 40s
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u/1rbryantjr1 Jan 28 '23
There is a crazy documentary style episode of Atlanta that describes the creator of the goofy movie, and it’s creation.
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u/murderedbydeath2 Jan 28 '23
That episode was a masterclass in the art of the slow burn lol Atlanta as a whole was an amazing journey, but halfway through that episode I was dying laughing.
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u/DankMemerCatGamer Jan 28 '23
I also love how even though he’s very clumsy he’s still trying his best to support his friends and family. He’s always gonna be one of my favorite Disney characters.
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u/SamaelTheAngel Jan 28 '23
I really like short story where Goofy took loan and was spending it on expensive stuff, suit etc but he became paranoid about his money and stopped even recognizing himself. So he bought Toys and gave it away for kids and in last panel Mickey says "you look happy" and Goofy replied "Cause i am".
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u/Subject_Tutor Jan 28 '23
I always assumed Max got a EXTREME Skateboarding scholarship.
I mean how else would he be able to stay in college after Goofy lost his job and enrolled full time to get a degree?
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u/TheRavenSayeth Jan 28 '23
Why is it necessary to trash someone just to praise someone else? I don’t know much Mickey lore but maybe he’s a good dude too. No need to unnecessarily spread hate.
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u/Big-Awoo Jan 29 '23
I love Goofy sm. I was raised by a single mom doing her best, so I really resonate with him and Max. I unfortunately never saw the movie this tweet refers to, but I did see the Christmas specials that featured these two. Goofy goes above and beyond to keep Christmas super special for Max, even staying up all night on the roof, hoping too flag down Santa Claus, and dressing up as Santa to keep the dream alive for Max.
In the other special, when Max is older and finds himself a girl, Goofy is always trying to keep in touch with Max to make sure he’s okay, and he encourages him to bring his new girlfriend over for the holidays. It ends up being your typical doofy “dad, you’re embarrassing me! Don’t show her my baby pictures!!” affair, but you can always see that Goofy loves Max more than anything, and wants nothing more than to see his son happy 💕
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u/kmrbels Jan 28 '23
Goofy is friend to MM who OWNS another dog named Pluto.
Let's thinkg about that.
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u/dniMdesreveR Jan 28 '23
Let's not forget that unlike the usual gang from Duckburg, Goofy has had sex.
Mickey and Donald both have nephews and Minnie and Daisy have nieces, Scrooge has a nephew and a niece, Gyro has a nephew, but none of them has any children of their own. Goofy has a nephew as well, but he also has Max, his son.
Goofy has had sex at least once and became a father and boy did he commit to that, becoming probably the best and most loving Disney parent.
I guess PJ is proof Pete had sex as well, but he is not a loving father.
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u/charlietips Jan 28 '23
I remember hearing somewhere that goofy is actually a cow rather than a dog.
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u/SamaelTheAngel Jan 28 '23
We literally see a cow who is Clarabelle also Goofy have nose.
Maybe you think about Horace who is Horse?
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u/AverageHorribleHuman Jan 28 '23
How the hell did he go to college and support a kid while unemployed
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u/Pelowtz Jan 28 '23
Atlanta (the Hulu show) made a great alternative history mockumentary about the goofy movie and it’s both wholesome and culturally relevant.
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u/Great-Turnabout Jan 28 '23
And while it was difficult he did eventually learn to accept when it was time for him to let go and allow Max to start living his life independently while Goofy himself even managed to find love again.