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The Year 1923 Predicts 2023

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u/effenlegend Jan 28 '23 Table Slap

Fuck Nostradamus, who was this guy?

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u/sunshineandcloudyday Jan 28 '23 Gold

A time traveler from later this year, clearly

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u/FrustratedCalico Jan 28 '23

Can we find him and get a message back to 1923? There's a few edits I'd like to make to our timeline.

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u/jj4211 Jan 28 '23

Plot twist is we are living in the time line that he already edited.

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u/PuttinOnTheTitzz Jan 29 '23

This is some 12 Monkeys shit where things are put in the paper as signals to the future.

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '23

Because as terrible as the atrocities of WWII were, the original timeline was 100 times worse.

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u/Monsur_Ausuhnom Jan 28 '23 Silver Starstruck

Delta Independent (Delta Co., Colorado), 19 October 1923, p8.

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u/jaded-introvert Jan 28 '23 Narwhal Salute

A link to a Library of Congress scan of the paper, for anyone who's interested: https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn86063206/1923-10-19/ed-1/seq-8/

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u/icybeavertail Jan 28 '23

I also particularly enjoy the bit above this paragraph

Many people who are trying to acquire "personality," but they can't get it merely by talking as if they thought everyone was deaf.

Seems to accurately capture influencer-culture

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u/Alert-Potato Jan 28 '23

And the one above that one about American people buying all the bunk that can be produced.

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u/LickingSmegma Jan 29 '23

That whole column, before the next heading, seems to be unrelated to anything around it. It's random musings instead of ‘local happenings’. And since the column itself doesn't have a header, we don't know why the texts are there.

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u/Alert-Potato Jan 29 '23

I love it. It's just such a wonderful little section of unlabeled, unrelated word vomit and it brought me great joy.

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u/hush-ho Jan 29 '23

There seems to be a lot of that in old papers. Check out The Past Times podcast (new podcast-in-a-podcast from The Dollop).

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u/Alert-Potato Jan 29 '23

Thanks, I'll do that! I grew up in a small-ish town and greatly enjoyed how much our local paper covered just general day to day life in the community. It was weird coming to a city where they don't publish the entirety of yesterday's dispatch calls every day so that you can get gossip fodder.

"911 dispatchers received a call reporting that the caller's husband was drunk and punching holes in the wall again and that she thinks he broke his hand this time due to hitting a stud. Police and an ambulance were dispatched to 123 4th Ave and the husband was transported to the hospital."

Suddenly everyone is all up in Daisy Mae's business, and now her husband Jim's drinking problem isn't just suspicion and rumor, it's verified fact. Fun if you have a drama free life. Not fun if you don't. Thankfully, the internet now fills my need to be a drama voyeur. (I feel like there's probably a German word for that.)

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u/hush-ho Jan 29 '23

I love r/SmalltownBignews for that. Sadly (or appropriately?) a pretty inactive sub.

I remember being in the local paper a couple times as a kid, when they'd cover some school or Scouts event. But that paper closed years ago.

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u/Alert-Potato Jan 29 '23

When I was in fourth grade, poppers were a big deal. Those little rubber things that were like half a ball, turn them inside out, and they pop up in the air. (not the drugs) A bunch of us were fucking off at the end of the day and putting them on ourselves. One of the girls stuck a large one to my hand, and it left a huge, purple, swollen bruise covering the entire back of my hand. (the way cupping leaves bruises)

My mother lost her shit. I didn't want to participate, but she forced me to let the paper take photos and they did a whole write-up about the horrific dangers of these toys and how my mother thought they should be banned.

Having just moved from one small town to the next one over and only having been at my school for a couple months, it was super fuckin' great for my social life...

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u/602Zoo Jan 28 '23

Damn that's crazy too. Did this person really see the future?

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u/winnower8 Jan 28 '23

Simple: Time traveler got stuck back in time. This story is a beacon to rescue them. We’ll have to slingshot around the sun to travel back in time.

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u/AgentUnknown821 Mutualist Jan 28 '23

That will be $2 million worth of paracord

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u/IndyWaWa Jan 29 '23

loud whale noises

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u/hpdefaults Jan 28 '23

Sadly, people have just always been that way in some manner or another.

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u/Acceptable-Shape-528 Jan 28 '23

I also particularly enjoy

I had to read the whole page... I've got mixed feelings about how they make ANYBODY's business EVERYBODY's business, you can't do anything in Delta without every literate person finding out.. wanna know which house to squat in next 6 weeks? Delta Independent got the scoop

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u/42DaisyPusher Jan 28 '23

Seriously, the details of people’s personal lives in the paper.

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u/SuspiciousGap724 Jan 29 '23

But many of us put the details of our lives on social media now. Accessible only to our subscribers, same as this newspaper... and there was always town gossip just not published.

Same as it ever was

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u/NotAnotherScientist Jan 28 '23

Amazing. Thanks for linking to the actual source.

Now my question is what the hell were people putting in newspapers in 1923?

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u/Money_Machine_666 Jan 28 '23

i had a dream that it was 2123 and that money is now obsolete and humans lay eggs.

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u/Soerinth Jan 28 '23

Have you been watching my Rimworld play through?

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u/RedditExecutiveAdmin Jan 28 '23

right above the ROGERS MESA thing

absolutely incredible

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u/anonomnomnomn Jan 28 '23

Ooh a source, very cool.

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u/thisisnorthe Jan 28 '23

Ducking finally lol

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u/Beznia Jan 28 '23

Yep, lots of quacks on here not posting sources.

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u/Clever_Mercury Jan 28 '23

Most Reddit posters think a citation is a traffic ticket.

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u/kanahl Jan 28 '23

I downvoted for a second, then my brain started to work. This is hilarious tbh

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u/RanCestor Jan 28 '23

"Yep, lots of quacks on here not posting sources." - Abraham Lincoln 1869.

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u/MartenGlo Jan 28 '23

He was responding to "Y'all fools always be making shit up." Mister Rogers c.1867

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u/Garmand3r Jan 28 '23

A so-urse?

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u/scheve_83 Jan 28 '23

sourcery

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u/immoral_ Jan 28 '23

It's hoity-toity speak for sauce.

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u/Jtk317 Jan 28 '23

Any chance the same person dreamed some lottery numbers for the Powerball in 2023?

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u/InVodkaVeritas Jan 28 '23

All of Reddit splits a 1 Billion dollar lottery. Our brief happiness cushed when we realize we only get $7.15 each.

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u/Fuzzy_Inevitable9748 Jan 28 '23

I don’t know man, getting 8 eggs would be pretty sweet right about now, maybe I would scramble them, or pickle them, or devil them…damn I am going to be dreaming about winning this lottery all day now :D

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u/type1advocate Jan 28 '23

Eggs are great in these tryin' times

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u/KeplerOrion Jan 28 '23

$1B is enough to build a mutual aid foundation and begin pulling people out of the dying system with alternative structures.

A little more support and we could start test driving entirely alternative means to socioeconomics, and find ourselves a real future.

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u/egordoniv Jan 28 '23

Reality is hard enough. Living in a doomsday scenerio to someone 100 years ago is flat-out depressing.

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u/sqerdagent Jan 28 '23

Its actually worse, they aren't striking.

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u/trouzy Jan 28 '23

And many people make less than $125/day

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u/Jasons_Brain Jan 28 '23

I've never made $125 a day at any job I've ever had...

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u/VictorMortimer Jan 28 '23

Time to go on strike then, isn't it?

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u/Heller_Hiwater Jan 28 '23

It is only January 2023

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u/rhiyanna79 Jan 28 '23

Yeah, we have 11 more months of 2023 to get that done.

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u/Jeanjacques_L Jan 28 '23

And 11 more months for eggs to actually reach $10/dozen

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u/PineappleMeister Jan 28 '23

Well the French are but then again when are they not

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u/cybertron2006 Jan 28 '23

Even worse, "legally not allowed to". :(

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u/MrJohnnyDangerously Jan 28 '23

Was about to call BS...the $15/hr and $10 eggs too prescient to be real, it's really easy to fake a font like this etc...but you came w/ a source.

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u/mizinamo Jan 28 '23

Which I'm sure you checked to make sure OP wasn't just making shit up!

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u/new_account-who-dis Jan 28 '23

someone posted a library of congress scan of the page a thread up. its legit

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u/verygoodchoices Jan 28 '23

I actually have a copy of this issue in my basement, belonged to my gramps, OP is 100% telling the truth.

Source: would I lie to you?

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u/mizinamo Jan 28 '23

Actually, I can confirm.

Source: I was the editor of the Delta Independent in 1923 and I remember that page.

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u/MydniteSon Jan 28 '23

Found George Santos's account!

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u/marvsup Jan 28 '23

Hey I'm close to there rn

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u/My_browsing Jan 28 '23

My condolences. Epicenter of western slope whack-jobs.

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u/smurfsm00 Jan 28 '23

Wow. Chillingly accurate.

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u/skippy2893 Jan 28 '23

Do we know of anyone making a string of wild gambling wins in the Colorado area in 1923?

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u/McLovin804 Jan 28 '23

And they say time travel isn't real.

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u/fullload93 Jan 28 '23

Holy fuck that’s crazy

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u/dirtynj Jan 28 '23

Thanks, I def wouldn't believe this without proof.

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u/SnackyCakes4All Jan 28 '23

Yep, my first thought was this had to be fake. Too scarily accurate.

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u/alarmclckcatastrophe Jan 28 '23

Oh cool, someone from 1923 time travelled to 2023 for a night

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u/geekgrrl0 Jan 28 '23

Where are the strikes though? The dreamer thought we'd be striking over this but too many of us are just brow-beaten and trying not to be evicted.

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u/5eMasterRace Jan 28 '23

The government intervened in one of the largest strikes in recent history. RIP Railroad Union rights

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u/geekgrrl0 Jan 28 '23

So infuriating. That should have been a call for a general strike by every other union.

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u/Tyrxgow Jan 28 '23

I wish I was french

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u/Tangent_Odyssey Jan 28 '23 edited Jan 28 '23

It’s funny to me how most of us in the U.S. probably grew up shitting on the French and using them as an insult or synonym for cowardice…then got older and learned that the opposite is true, and powerful people just have an interest in discouraging that particular type of bravery.

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u/noradosmith Jan 28 '23

Yep. The French have fought more wars than anyone in history (according to niall ferguson anyway)

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u/Tangent_Odyssey Jan 28 '23

I was speaking more to the revolutionary spirit of their working class than any state-sanctioned military action (particularly given that much of that was colonization).

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u/EggKey5513 Jan 28 '23

I find it totally ironic as the US CONSTITUTION was modeled after the French; whom basically The Godfather of modern revolution.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberté,_égalité,_fraternité

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u/Captain_Hamerica Jan 28 '23

Extremely prescient point. I remember when France hesitated on the US’s invasion of Iraq because of something paid for by a Saudi Prince and we all were like… they’re called freedom fries now!

Do you remember where there was even a time where if you googled “French military victories,” google would respond with “did you mean French military defeats?”

It used to be like an enormous cultural joke, and here we all are now, seething with jealousy about French people being fantastic about taking down authoritarianism

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u/DeeJayGeezus Jan 28 '23

general strike by every other union

Explicitly illegal under the Taft-Hartely Act of 1947. Since a general strike would be explicitly illegal, the capitalists would have no trouble getting the militarized police to brutalize any strikers.

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u/geekgrrl0 Jan 28 '23

Sounds like we need to work on changing the laws then. By striking. Which is how the laws we have were put into force in the first place.

I'm in Canada but we're not that much different when it comes to the force of our labour laws. Our public is more supportive than in the US, thankfully. But what happens to you guys down there seems to seep across the border eventually. I'm also in law school so technically I can't promote illegal behaviour due to ethics. But just sharing the history of how these laws came to be in the first place...no ethical responsibility there.

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u/EmptySkin Jan 28 '23

So infuriating. That should have been a call for a general strike by every other union. everyone. This affects everyone union or not. The government is (theoretically) by the people for the people not by the corporations for the corporations. It’s times to start holding them accountable.

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u/Revolutionary_Gas542 Communist Jan 28 '23

That's... The point of a union.... To coordinate worker strikes...

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u/hysys_whisperer Jan 28 '23

If a union organizes a general strike in America, the leaders of that union can be jailed for something like 20 years.

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u/Revolutionary_Gas542 Communist Jan 28 '23

And honestly if it weren't the case the leaders would get shot instead, still that's a risk the workers must take to end the dystopia we live in

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u/MrNewReno Jan 28 '23

That whole situation....lord. the party of labor rights drops that policy when it becomes politically inconvenient.

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u/LazarusCheez Jan 28 '23

When did we get a party of labor rights?

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u/BlueHeartBob Jan 28 '23

And here you witness that both parties are first and foremost parties of capital, not it’s voter base or what they claim they fight for. They know they don’t get to exist without the say of those with capital.

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u/YoniDaMan Jan 28 '23

2023 is just beginning, my friend…

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u/thisisnorthe Jan 28 '23

Checks calendar

”oh my god. you’re right”

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u/DramaLlamadary Jan 28 '23

What a year, huh?

Lemon, it’s January.

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u/north_canadian_ice SocDem Jan 28 '23

2023 is just beginning, my friend…

And as each year ticks by, more & more are awakening to the frightening reality of where we are heading if we don't self advocate.

From 1979 to 2021 productivity outpaced wage growth by 3.7x. Meanwhile the cost of living is exploding upwards, US lifespan is declining & our human rights are dwindling. The GOP is openly talking about ending democracy & is implementing Christian fascism in their states. And yet in spite of this the Dems can't even advocate reforming the Supreme Court & ending the fillibuster.

I didn't even mention climate change & ecological disaster. So I think people have had it with this bullshit - especially Gen Z where I see tremendous leadership. And we start by reclaiming our dignity in the workplace, which we depend on for our livelihoods & where we spend most of our time.

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u/Rillist Jan 28 '23

And my parents wonder why I don't want children

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u/Angryandalwayswrong Jan 28 '23

Millennial checking in. I welcome Gen Z’ers to the party. Millennials have known it’s over for a long time. Al Gore was peak climate alarming when our eyes were shining brightest. We saw a blowjob impeach a president, a stolen election, two planes fly into buildings, a pointless and dumb war, a housing crisis… and now everything now that is happening but 10x worse… humans just kinda suck and can’t ever agree on anything; our ego is too big.

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u/Captain_Hamerica Jan 28 '23

Pippin: but what about second housing crisis?

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u/Normal_Juggernaut Jan 28 '23

Plenty going on in Europe. Maybe that's where they ended up.

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u/smdntn Jan 28 '23

The strikes are here in the UK

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u/Velvet_Pop Jan 28 '23

Be the change you wish to see in the world

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u/Differlot Jan 28 '23

I mean france is def getting their strike on

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u/youknowiactafool Jan 28 '23

Time is not linear. It twists and turns as the way water trickles in a drunken, mishaped line.

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u/The_Woman_of_Gont Jan 28 '23

People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect, but actually from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint - it's more like a big ball of wibbly wobbly... timey wimey... stuff.

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u/ScrufffyJoe Jan 28 '23

That one got away from you a bit, didn't it?

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u/mrjackspade Jan 28 '23

Jeremy Bearimy

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u/ConditionOfMan Jan 28 '23

"I just saw a trillion different realities folding onto each other like thin sheets of metal, forming a single blade."

"Yeah, yeah. The Time-Knife. We've all seen it."

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u/Royal-Advance7374 Jan 28 '23

I’m in LA county: minimum wage $15 ($120 a day) and I saw eggs at $9.99 the other day. So yeah…

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u/CainRedfield Jan 28 '23

I'm in BC and min wage is 15.65 so literally $125.2 a day. And eggs after tax are almost exactly $10 for a dozen right now (organic large eggs sure, but still).

But average rent here is around $85 a day, so there's that.

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u/atatassault47 Jan 28 '23

And rent charges per every day, not just working days.

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u/ChelseaIsBeautiful Jan 28 '23

I should just be paying my landlord for the day's they are actively on the property, maintaining it

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u/loercase Jan 28 '23

So, zero days a year?

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u/Maddok3d Jan 28 '23

I'm from BC and came here to say the same thing. I really want to leave Victoria because I really can't afford to live here, but I can't afford to move either because I'm living paycheck to paycheck on Vancouver Island.

So I'm pretty much stuck on this rock unless my life changes drastically, this country changes drastically, or I become homeless and stow away on a ferry with nothing left to lose. 🤷 I'm considering all the outcomes!

Trying to make the drastic life changes and not be too defeatist but it's very daunting when everything around me seems to be collapsing.

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u/Prairie2Pacific Jan 28 '23

I'm in Victoria and I'm constantly sizing up towns like Gold River and Sayward and then getting hit with the reality that I'd never find a job there to meet the monthly mortgage payment. On paper, I could live in one of these towns but the likelihood of finding work that pays what I make here is really low.

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u/seattle_exile Jan 28 '23

There’s also the problem of “where you going to go?” Unless you move to the sticks where you constantly endure sub-zero weather, pretty much everywhere in Canada is super expensive.

I feel for my northern brethren like only a Seattlite could, and I hope you find a way to ease the burden.

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u/batmansleftnut Jan 28 '23

It's not just the climate, either. Maybe you are trained in a job that only exists in the big city. Maybe you are a visible minority that may face discrimination in smaller towns. Maybe you have a medical condition that requires you be near a larger hospital or a specialty doctor. Maybe in addition to working, you are also going to school so you need to be near a university. Maybe you are caring for a family member who cannot easily move to a small town.

There's more to life than just wages vs. rent price.

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u/Angryandalwayswrong Jan 28 '23

It’s a positive feedback loop. Everyone wants a rewarding high paying job. Those jobs are typically in large cities. People move to big cities. Then you need more service jobs. People move to big cities for higher paying service jobs. Rent goes up in big cities due to demand. More people need better, higher paying jobs so local industry grows… etc…

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u/drewknukem Jan 28 '23

I'm in this comment and I don't like it.

I'm trans & work in IT security so the vast majority of accessible jobs and services are in Toronto or Vancouver (Montreal if I could speak French), both are excessively expensive and I already live in one of them. Working remotely is an option but then I'd be far away from services I have to access, let alone family living close to the city. I live extremely frugally, have been saving for 7 years in a good paying job and still don't have enough for a downpayment. So I guess I can go fuck myself. :)

I do think we're fast approaching a major shift globally, though. People are more aware than ever they're getting shafted, younger generations recognize they're having things like home ownership pulled out of their range, and while there's no major unified movement yet, the energy is there just waiting to be ignited by the right spark I think.

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u/misschzburger Jan 28 '23

How the fuck do we expect people to survive?

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u/BROHAM101 Jan 28 '23

that's the neat part, we don't

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u/Elegant-Raise-9367 Jan 28 '23

Wasn't the American health system a big enough clue?

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u/Toberos_Chasalor Jan 28 '23

That’s Canada, eh. Though our healthcare system is a pretty shitty middle-ground between a European style public healthcare system and America’s private system, so it’s not like we’re expecting people to live either.

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u/HEW1981 Jan 28 '23

Don't forget, most provinces seem to be led by people with vested interest in private healthcare

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u/itsacalamity Jan 28 '23

Now ask how much people on disability are forced to get by on, and that it’s a multi-year process to be approved where you just have to live on ?????

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u/Old_Personality3136 Jan 28 '23

This guy aristocracies.

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u/mookyvon Jan 28 '23

They're not. Life expectancy is falling off a cliff. Turns out people need to be able to afford things in order to live!

https://i.redd.it/5vgz6ij9blea1.jpg

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u/misschzburger Jan 28 '23

How dare those wage slaves be so entitled. /s

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u/Monotreme_monorail Jan 28 '23

There are no taxes on eggs in BC. They’re a food essential so there is no GST or PST.

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u/joojie Jan 28 '23

I'm in BC and eggs are $4something a dozen. I buy the flat of 32 and it's $9.

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u/I_Sett Jan 28 '23 Gold

The Dream component is the bit about people going on strike over these things.

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u/JoelBlackout Communist Jan 28 '23

Haha. I'm in Texas and minimum wage is still $7.25 here.

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u/Oldguru-Newtricks Jan 28 '23

Yeah, I don't get it. My daughter lives in Amarillo and pays$1795.00 a month rent. Don't get how people survive on $7.25

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u/JessicaBecause Jan 28 '23

Holy moly, what's the population there?

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u/Askduds Jan 28 '23

Kudos to that level of accuracy tbh

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u/[deleted] Jan 28 '23

But does anyone strike?

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u/MisterNiceGuy0001 Jan 28 '23

If we do, they'll take our standing mats away

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u/dynamiterolll Jan 28 '23

I'm in Vancouver and thus is 99% accurate based on our min wage and egg prices

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u/CainRedfield Jan 28 '23

Literally same, it's actually creepy. Doubt they would have guessed we'd be spending $80-120 a day in rent for garbage living accommodations though.

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u/Lord_of_the_Eyes Jan 28 '23

I think they would in some places.

https://www.leshp.org/blog/the-housing-crisis-of-1920/

“The combination of a severe housing shortage and immense population boom at the end of WWI led to waves of mass evictions for much of the city's working-class and working-poor population.”

“Motivated by a post-war interest in Manhattan real estate, unscrupulous landlords used loopholes in the housing laws in what surmounted to nothing less than class warfare; tenants were essentially extorted into paying over 25% more in rent or face eviction. Tens of thousands who could not pay were forced into homelessness.”

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u/zbeara Jan 28 '23

This is... scarily prescient. I really hope we're not in for a repeat of the great depression.

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u/malonkey1 Jan 28 '23 edited Jan 29 '23

$125 a day would be $15.62 an hour, this is actually overly optimistic lmao

EDIT: Yes, yes, I know, some places have minimum wages that aren't completely pathetic thank you all for reminding me that the state of Indiana is an absolute shithole even in comparison to the rest of the US and Canada

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u/SpaceJesusIsHere Jan 28 '23

$125 x 260 work days a year is $32,500 per year. Eerily accurate prediction from a hundred years ago. The only part he got wrong is that most people aren't striking even though they earn $125 a day and eggs are almost 10 bucks.

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u/Jollyjoe135 Jan 28 '23 edited Jan 29 '23

It doesn’t say most people it just says people. In that sense it is quite correct. We had more strikes in the second half of 2022 than in the whole of 2021 and that trend seems to be continuing. 7,000 nurses were striking in New York through the new year.

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u/NostalgicTuna Jan 28 '23

the year is young

and the media + foreign adversaries are pushing civil unrest here pretty hard core so who knows when it'll start.

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u/CAHTA92 Jan 28 '23

They imagine a miserable wage and a strike because of it, but in reality we get paid way worse than that and are too busy or afraid to fight for a change.

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u/tempestveil Jan 28 '23 All-Seeing Upvote

ITS ULTRA RICH AND POLITICIANS VS EVERYONE ELSE. WAKE UP.

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u/Karcinogene Jan 28 '23 All-Seeing Upvote

The challenge is all waking up at the same time. If we rise up one by one, we get wack-a-moled. We need to find a way to act, all at once, all together. Then we'd have all the power.

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u/triclops6 Jan 28 '23

In union, perhaps, even?

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u/Explodicle Jan 28 '23

Is there a way to build a union with no central leadership to whack-a-mole with bribes or threats?

(Actually asking, not arguing)

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u/PM_LIFE_STORY_PLEASE Jan 28 '23

The key, as with EVERYTHING, is always technology.

We need to leverage technology to organize and activate the population

We need "ridesharing" but for worker's and citizens rights.

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u/ZaddyAtty Jan 28 '23

Its not even ultra rich, its just the rich who buy every politician, regardless of political party to keep the systems in place that stops all growth and actual progress

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u/KnowsIittle Jan 28 '23

$12.50/hr for a 10 hour shift, minus unpaid lunch hour, minus taxes, minus health care, minus taxes again for federal. Congratulations you made $75 today and eggs are on sale for $8 a dozen.

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u/EcstaticSociety4040 Jan 28 '23

Reality, min wage pays $58 for 8 hours and the Dozen eggs is $5.00.

1923, guessed pretty accurately.

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u/Monsur_Ausuhnom Jan 28 '23

Makes me wonder if this was the worst case scenario or dystopian timeline at the time.

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u/Feeling_Bathroom9523 Jan 28 '23

The shittier thing of it is that NO ONE is protesting in the US. If it is, it’s definitely not advertised. We are so indebted to landlords and and consumption that we can’t afford to protest like before. It’s a feature and it sucks.

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u/Turkstache Jan 28 '23

Zoning laws contribute to this.

Single Family Detached Housing and separation of Commercial and Residential zones prevent public spaces from naturally forming.

Joining a protest that marches by your front door is much easier and safer than driving to one. The protests are also much more effective because they're in everyone's faces. If your only option to protest or counter protest is driving to one, the people you're trying to inform (the unaffiliated or unexposed) aren't going to see it if they have no other reason to be at the protest location in the first place.

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u/lddebatorman Jan 28 '23

So what I'm hearing is "protesting is not enough."

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u/MisterDings Jan 28 '23

Historically protests were effective because they are a threat, then followed by an action if change doesn’t follow. In the American modern day people are too fearful to follow through on that threat often times due to being too comfortable and generally afraid of the retaliation from our massive police state, who have shown that their main job isn’t to protect the people but to protect the assets of the wealthy.

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u/Alcnaeon Jan 28 '23

it's less about the comfort and more about the debt, the looming threat of homelessness

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u/podolot Jan 28 '23

It's almost like our entire society was designed to make it hard to make any real changes.

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u/chaotic----neutral Jan 28 '23

The government will just shut that shit down now, even if you have a union. Then the company you were striking against can report record profits and stock buybacks equaling more than they spent on wages for a year.

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u/carefree-and-happy Jan 28 '23

Most places are paying $15/hr (I make $130/day) which is $120/day and I bought eggs in my area for $9 + tax which would be $9.63

It’s not worst case scenario there are many people where this scenario is actually happening!

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u/lizzietnz Jan 28 '23

Not if you live in NZ! $125 would be pay after tax here and eggs are about $9 a dozen.

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u/anger_is_my_meat Jan 28 '23

Yeah but because NZ is upside down you have to use the inverse, so $125-1 ($.008) and $9-1 ($.11) respectively. Some very expensive eggs relative to wages.

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u/smartguy05 Jan 28 '23

In Colorado the minimum wage at 8 hours is ~$110/day and I have definitely seen eggs over $9.

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u/Fr_JackHackett Jan 28 '23

Our reality is even more bleak than a man with a life expectancy of 56 years old could imagine in his worst nightmare

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u/Brutto13 Jan 28 '23

Life expectancies in the past are skewed by childhood deaths. If you made it past childhood you could live into your 60s and 70s pretty easily. We're only seeing 70s and 80s now as the norm because of medical technology.

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u/Point_Forward Jan 28 '23

2023 is just getting started brother.

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u/totalfarkuser Jan 28 '23

That was last week. Eggs are up to $6-$7 this week.

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u/offbrandbarbie Jan 28 '23

We’re getting close. I got a dozen eggs for $7 after tax the other day.

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u/Rubtabana Jan 28 '23

You have to pay tax on food?

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u/Rubtabana Jan 28 '23

I learned something new today. I’ve traveled around the US some but I’ve missed all the states that charge sales tax on food. Thanks you for educating me this morning.

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u/Mispelled-This SocDem 🇺🇸 Jan 28 '23

Even we are often surprised by all the seemingly gratuitous differences (not just in taxes) when moving between states.

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u/Altofaltception Jan 28 '23

Yet the average wage isn't quite $125 a day is it?

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u/offbrandbarbie Jan 28 '23

In my state it is, but ours is higher than most.

But yeah it’s TOUGH out there

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u/spagooseti Jan 28 '23

all we need are the strikes and he hit it head on

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u/123bpd Jan 28 '23

Nursing. He hit the nail on the head.

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u/spagooseti Jan 28 '23

i want to see a mass strike where everyone, no matter where they work, goes on strike. who knows if that will ever happen, but i feel it would be the only way we would really see a change.

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u/11small_fry Jan 28 '23

not to be super pretentious, but in some ways our bodies are striking before we do. millions of people are coming down w long covid and it's taking them out of the workforce.

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u/totalfarkuser Jan 28 '23

Scary accurate (except for the strike part since we have no workers rights).

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u/DannyBoy911 Jan 28 '23

No one will give workers their right to strike. This is a right that must be taken, by force if necessary

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u/hedgerow_hank Jan 28 '23

Do you realize how sensational that must have appeared at the time?

Eggs were a nickel a dozen. Gas was 5-10 cents a gallon. And here's this person talking this wild stuff about making $125 a day? And eggs costing a month's rent?

Crazy talk.

At the rate we're going right now, how will 2023 be looked at from 2123?

Or is that not even possible at this point.

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u/zoinkability Jan 28 '23

To extrapolate, we would expect in 2123 that daily wages would be $3,600 and eggs would be (based on the “sane” cost of $3.50 a dozen before the current egg-specific situation) about $100. If based on current egg prices, closer to $200 a dozen.

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u/[deleted] Jan 28 '23 edited Feb 16 '23

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u/imgonnabeastirrer Jan 28 '23

Damn they pretty much hit the nail on the head with that one

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u/Candid-Refuse-3054 Jan 28 '23

I work at food lion for thirteen an hour. I'm ready to fucking fight everyone at this point. 28 and I hate this country. Grew up a military kid and lived in Italy until I was 15. It's all been downhill from there. Got type 1 diabetes out of the blue 3 years ago with no family history of it. Life just sucks. I'd start a go fund me for medical expenses and other stuff if it didn't feel like begging. Like Jesus. I'm just at my wits end. If I make anymore money I will lose my PAP AND WONT GET MY INSULIN. but won't be able to afford bills and meds and food if I don't qualify for these programs. It's a fucking nightmare

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u/Djorgal Jan 28 '23

The average inflation rate since 1923 is about 3%, which makes it 19 increases since then.

A 4% average would have meant a 50 times increase (1.04100 ). They seem to have assumed somewhere between 3 and 4%, which was really close. Especially considering that inflation can vary widely from one year to the next. It was around 15% in 1917 to 1920, then -11% in 1921, -6% in 1922 and 1.8% in 1923.

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u/CAHTA92 Jan 28 '23

The got the wages right and the egg prices right, hope they get the strike right as well BECAUSE IM TIRED, IM EXHAUSTED of barely living.

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u/Equatical Jan 28 '23

Let’s make some 2123 predictions.

There are no eggs and nothing exists. Greed and capitalism wiped it all out.

Wait, how is anyone going to read this then?

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u/tremblingtwiggy Jan 28 '23

Huh. Funny how this vision of a dystopian future still doesn't sum up how hard things are for so many people. $125 daily is $15.62 hourly for an 8 hour day.

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u/tapdesign502 Jan 28 '23

…..and rent had risen to $1,500.00 a month for a small two bedroom apartment

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u/well-i Jan 28 '23

Wow! So we're living in someone's nightmare from the 1920s!

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u/snoreymcsnoreyton Jan 28 '23

Ok so the prices are right, when does the strike part kick in eh?

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u/s_arrow24 Jan 28 '23

We’re only a month in, so there’s time.

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u/wannabegame_dev Jan 28 '23

$125/8hr workday = about $15.50/hr. This tracks.

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